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Aug 30 2006, 12:10 AM
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simple question: what are your thoughts on suicide
this is something ive attepted when i was really depressed, but my brother stopped me in the process
but that was a long time ago, now that im not depressed i can think more clearly, and i wouldnt suggest suicide to anyone, but i would to you know your thoughts
please discuss
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Aug 30 2006, 11:12 AM
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Personally, I think it's a quitters solution if it's someone who's just depressed or bummed out. But if it's someone who's crippled, or has a severe health problem and the odds are against them, then it's alittle more forgiveable. I don't agree with it, but I understand the reasons behind it.
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Aug 30 2006, 01:39 PM
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I've tried to do it a fair few times.
not a pretty experience.
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Aug 30 2006, 01:45 PM
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The cat is Aeria Gloris =[

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Im a Christian, so Im totally against this. I dont think its the persons fault I think its the fault of the people who are close to that person. They should see the signs and should never have let the person get that way.
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Aug 30 2006, 02:36 PM
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Suicide is for wimps who are afraid of life.
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Aug 30 2006, 06:27 PM
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As my teacher says...
Don't look for a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
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Aug 30 2006, 08:06 PM
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you have to appreciate life...get a hobby, do something fun. always put a positive way on everything you do. its helps me, and use better judgment.
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Aug 30 2006, 09:16 PM
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0_o thats just insaine y the hell would u wanna do that
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Aug 30 2006, 10:55 PM
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Knock first, Jojo doesn't wan't anyone looking

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My thoughts? Anyone who can't enjoy their lives should do it.
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Aug 31 2006, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(derka_derka @ Aug 31 2006, 04:55 AM)  Anyone who can't enjoy their lives should do it.
Which was what my life was like 1/2 years ago
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Aug 31 2006, 10:29 AM
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When I first started dating my (now) wife she was lifing at her mom's house with one of her closest friends. this friend had a bad self image and several issues over having been beaten: mentally, physically and sexually abused in her childhood by a family member. She (and my wife) were seniors in college and the friend had cut all ties to her family. She was a fun person, we would hang out together, watch movies, chat on AIM (they had 3 online comuters in their house), go on late night walmart runs, watch anime, play games, etc. She was very smart and talented, she was in band and could play horn and flute very well. she loved Harry Potter and LotR. She "approved" of me dating her friend and I became good friends with her as well.
eventually she decided to leave and move in with another of or friends, someone who was a great person, a little conservative but not really too uptight if you know what I mean. Our friend had attempted suicide before but it was considered not super serious (like telling people that she had taken a few too many pain pills or cutting herself not on the arteries). She started to have troubles again, taking pills then posting on her live journal, then taking pills when no one was around. We tried to talk to her and find out what was the problem but she VERY rarely would talk about her problems or what made her so upset. Finally she took way to many pills and then went driving around for a couple hours in rush hour traffic. We convinced her she needed to go to a rehab/mental clenic and took her there. they told her to take her anti-pills and let her out 3 days later. She stayed with my wife's mother for a few days more and then went back to her apartment.
About a week later she posted that she had a gun hidden in her room. We went to her and she gave it to us (she called it her "fuzzy") and then we ended up taking her to another hospitol. All of her friends would come and visit her every day, I would try to stop by a couple times while I was driving around working. It was a low security psych ward, they let you watch lame movies and color pictures of lighthouses. They let her out after she had missed thankgiving and then she seemed alright for a little while. She then checked herself back in a few weeks later, tried to break out the 12th floor window and jump, was sent upstairs to the no-visitors floor, and managed to strangle herself with her bedsheet.
She had lived a horrible childhood and could not imagine her life ever being worth living. She had wonderful friends and (we believe) could not concieve of a life after collage where she would be able to live with herself and everything that had happened to her. She had been on a varity of high dosage prescription anti-depressants and sometimes she would quit taking them becasue she just did not care. The fact that she was such great friends with my wife (they had known each other since they were in second grade) and our other friends was one reason why she even tried to complete collage and live life in general.
It will always make me sad to remember her. If I had not getten involved with her friend would she have made it to graduation, maybe been accepted by an orchestra, and perhaps been alright by herself for a while? If so would she eventaully have done what she did maybe 10 years later? It is sad that my wife never got to call her friend and tell her that we got engaged, she was not ablr to attned our wedding as a bride's maid, she never even got to see LotR:tRotK and she was a big Legolas/Gandalf fan. she never made peace with her parents and they still don't have access to her medical records (as was her wish)
We are still friends with one of her younger brothers. He looks so much like her it can be painful sometimes. He is a great guy and will be the first person from their family to fininsh college.
Be careful whenever you are generalizing about everyone's situation. Suicide is not always "just a cry for help". The causes can be different than those immediatly surounding the victim. People can exist in a state of agony that you or I might find unimaginable.
sometimes life can seem to be going by very quickly. hindsight is 20/20 but even then someitmes is can be hard to understand what has happened. it can be hard to grasp even if it is going on around you and you are un-informed as to what the problem is.
but people do not have to have their existance dominated by experiences that happened in their past. the future can always contain hope as long as you have the will to want things to be better.
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Aug 31 2006, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(.:Jehuty:. @ Aug 30 2006, 02:45 PM)  Im a Christian, so Im totally against this. I dont think its the persons fault I think its the fault of the people who are close to that person. They should see the signs and should never have let the person get that way.
im also a christian, which is a reason that nobody expected it really if it was anybodys fault i tried its mine, i made the choice, i picked up the fork, i tried to kill myself the reason i did it is because i was away from my home, i got to watch my grandpa die, and days after that guess what happened...... sept 11th bombings, but the people around me couldnt have helped that, its not always everyones fault except the person whose doing it, in my case it was only my fault
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Aug 31 2006, 03:44 PM
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Suicide is stupid. No 1 should even attmept it. You may be depressed, but you will get over it eventually. Enjoy life while you can.
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Sep 4 2006, 03:12 AM
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Yea, thats what Everyones says.. enjoy it while u can.. But If u feel like ur never gona enjoy it, then theres no point in going on.
U have to think about it from a Suicidal Person's point of view.
Personally, i've thought about it many a times.. but never really went through with it and now i've kinda given up on being all depressed and emotional cuz really.. no one will come to ur side and help u with it unless u post a bulletin on myspace saying "Omg i am suicidal, i hate life, come talk to me" and be a total attention *****. Ya know why? Cuz ppl today are too stupid to realize how much their friends lives suck until its too late. So my Advice to U suicidal ppl, is to do what i do, and just think about how badly ur parents will be hurt by it and if u think they wont, well ur a moron. Ur Mom and dad didnt go through 9 months of BS to have to born to not care about u dying or not.
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Sep 4 2006, 07:32 PM
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Nice huh?

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I have been depressed, and I thought of it once, I'm not to big on dying, so I'm still here obv.
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